Is the music industry oversaturated now?
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    23 Sep 2011 01:45 PM
    Does it bother anyone else that almost everyone in the world wants to be a producer or rapper? With all of the new advancements in technology (such as mobile DAWs for example) it seems like soon EVERYONE is gonna be doing it. I feel like this is holding me back from my potential. I look at how many more people are doing this on a daily basis and it just depresses me. On every music video on youtube, there are millions of people trying to show off their music. The thing that bothers me about this is that none of these kids are actually serious about it. I mean they're not even willing to pay for the software or equipment. They just download a crack of FL, play around with the piano roll, and act like they're professionals. How is anyone who is actually serious about making music supposed to stand out anymore? I know im still a "noob" when it comes to music, but this is something im serious about and im willing to spend money and time on it. How can i get over my frustration and get back to making music? i just cant feel motivated anymore. it seems hopeless.
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    23 Sep 2011 04:21 PM
    i was watching a video that Rico Love put up about somebody who was telling him that he was ready to quit b/c he was so depressed and frustrated...at first Rico Love told him to just keep pushing and keep striving..
    but then he said, he realized he told him the wrong thing.

    He said he should have told him to quit, b/c he hasn't even gone through anything yet...he hasn't endured any hardships of trying to get any type of success in the music industry...and I agree.

    If you are getting frustrated and depressed at what you see already, then this might not be what you TRULY want.

    On another note, there are plenty of SUCCESSFUL musicians and artists out there...they may not be FAMOUS, but they are successful. A lot of people think that if a person isn't on the main screen, then they aren't successful. you have to make a decision...do you want to be a famous producer, or do you want to be a successful producer that may not be well known, but knows how to make good music and conduct good business to make a living off of this stuff?

    there are too many noobs out there who are willing to get a cracked program just to get started and learn the ins and outs and keep struggling and trying to make things happen for you to have time to be worried about "is the music game saturated" and getting depressed and frustrated by it. there is ALWAYS money to be made if you conduct your business right, get a good product going and work hard and SMART. If you feel like all that stuff is holding you back from your "potential" , then maybe you should reconsider what you are doing. seriously.
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    23 Sep 2011 08:16 PM
    fame or not i don't really care. hell, i'm not even really concerned about how much money i make. I just want to be able to make a living and enjoy what i do. i haven't really ever been interested in anything before this. and its not just merely an interest, its become somewhat of an obsession. i constantly think about making music. i cant even keep focused on my school work anymore. i guess your right though, i'm spending too much time worrying about others to achieve anything. im gonna try to get out of that mentality and just make music. thanks for the advice!
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    24 Sep 2011 07:42 PM
    In a sense, it's always been that way. But, it's a good thing in a way, because this is a discipline.

    The "software and hardware game" is just a ploy to get you to spend lots of cash. I won't tell you how much I've got tied up in all this stuff. But, none of this "stuff" made me the least bit better. I just spend lots more time shuffling through all this stuff, learning how to use it, activating and updating the stuff I already have, and troubleshooting all my equipment. When I finally do make a beat, I realize that they aren't any better than they were before I got all this stuff.

    What's my point? Yeah, lot's of people do it, but lots of people play sports, too. This is better odds than sports because as you do it for awhile you start to see that the business/networking side of this is really the key to success. Your marketing skills are more important (if you wanna do this full time) than your beat making skills.

    Why? People won't always agree with you as to what "good" music is anyway.

    My humble advice is: Make the music YOU like, whenever you have the chance. Learn the basics of popular song structure, get a handle on your basic mix, but, let someone else master your tracks (it's not terribly expensive if you start selling tracks), and network, network, network!!! It's all about exposure + who you know. Focus on a style of beat. Get proficient in it. K.I.S.S. (Keep it simple, stupid! No offense!) Don't get the big head and ask too much for your beats. Get your stuff out there, you can be sure, there are far more people who wanna rap and sing than there are people who can afford or have the ability to make tracks.

    Persistence WILL pay off. For precisely the reason you just named. Yes, there are lots of people doing it. But some will get fed up, others will see that this isn't for them, others will move on to the next thing.

    War is never about who is the strongest or the best, but simply who is left standing after ever one falls. You're chance will come...unless you give up. But, don't stress, if you DO give up, someone else will move right in where you left off! Cheers! Do ya thing!
    But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. --Psalm 22:6
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    25 Sep 2011 03:37 AM
    i never tought about other and i was never concerned about how the other are doing, every now and then when i talk to my mothers, shes says arent you afraid of all of that competition....i am like, what ??? haahaah...while yall are looking behind you to see where i am, ima blast some nitro in ya face and get to the finish line first, cause iam focused on my goal
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    26 Sep 2011 03:43 PM
    thanks for the responses everyone! im gonna try to stay focused on my goals instead of my competition. i really appreciate the advice and encouragement.
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    26 Sep 2011 04:58 PM
    now you got the right attitude. good luck and make it happen!!
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    26 Sep 2011 10:48 PM
    I, basically have the same attitude as Def Starz except for the fact I'm ten times hotter than him #LOL...
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    27 Sep 2011 12:58 AM
    yeah you wish
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    27 Sep 2011 01:52 PM
    that sounds like a beat battle challenge.....
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    27 Sep 2011 02:51 PM
    Bring it on! JB, one on one? You dare to challenge me? ME?! MEEEEEE?!?!?!?!?!?! Lmfaooo...
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    28 Sep 2011 06:57 AM
    yes, why not, i dont want to hurt you thou i know how fragile you can be lol
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    28 Sep 2011 07:43 AM
    ^ Bwhahahahhaha bring it on little sunny! You name the genre, and I'll meet you there..!
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    28 Sep 2011 11:40 AM
    the only thing that pisses me off is like soulja boy n like dumb records that get millions of hits on youtube and they make a lot of money… its not even the money cuz no matter what they done something right to get wherever they are, its just people saying omg I love this songggggg … it just pisses me off >:{ especially this new swag music, garbage I swear
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    28 Sep 2011 03:14 PM
    To be honest, I don't even give a fuck about making money off of music. I simply want to do it as a hobby, but to also be really focused on it, and make some very interesting works. Maybe it's just a phase for me, but coming up with ideas for songs is pretty cool. That's just my take on this issue. Maybe I'm just another one of the quacks you mentioned who aren't even serious about this.

    A plan I have is to have an ordinary career, and to also focus somewhat heavily on music and other artistic hobbies.

    To answer your question, it does seem like there are a LOT of people who want to make beats and rap nowadays.
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    29 Sep 2011 04:19 AM
    ait TI we wont hijack this thread, we will arrange something
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    29 Sep 2011 05:15 AM
    ^ PM Me..

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    29 Sep 2011 10:36 AM

    I talked bout this before....

     

    No i't dont't bother me and it shouldn't bother you...

     

    Is it oversaturated?

     

    No its not... Its still 7 time more rappers/singers that beatmakers

    Instead of making beats lets say you wanna sell computer software

     

    You'll see alot of people compiting for #1 spot on google for it, you'll go to places where other sellers are going, you'll got to forums where other's software makers/sellers going (and there is alot more forums bout that than hip hop) and you'll do everything that they do...

    Soon it will look like everyone wanna make/sell software...

     

    Same thing wiith beats.

     

    But i agree with everything Werm said!

    Marketing is 100 times more important then beat making skills. I can say im really good with it so yeah im succesfull in this beat selling game.

     

    And DISCIPLINE is most important. If you really "work" as a company or real bussines, investing in every kind of marketing and brand you gonna be 1000 time better than kid who make beats witth cracked software.

     

    So discipline needs to be on every level.

     

    If someone from AtomicBeats cross the line of "good behavior" (even by little) they suffer consequences...lol

    Sometimes that makes me biggest jerk in the world but that also make me really successful.

    JB (DefStarz) is doing really well this month but he'll not be so cocky when he'll got 0 sales next month...lol (consequences...lol)

     

    Point is. You can have best beat in thee world, if you don't take it seriously and have real plan and see this as a job (that needs to be promoted and be organized like a real business) you'll not make it.

     

    If you do, there can be 1000000 more cracked softwaree producers out there and it wouldn't mean nothing to you. Cos they are still just kids playing with software and you are "brand"

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    29 Sep 2011 11:32 AM
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