Tips on Choppin?
Last Post 05 Apr 2012 12:35 PM by Sheldon Mack. 6 Replies.
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Sheldon Mack

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    27 Mar 2012 12:04 PM

    Hey guys, I have been sampling more and more lately, it's a lot of fun to me. Right now I just get 1 or 2 big chops and loop it then add my own instruments on them. However, I really want to get into some serious sampling sh*t, because i'm a fan of j dilla, just blaze, alchemist etc. Whenever I try to get a lot of small chops and put them together, it never goes well. I just want to know if you guys have any tips for that level of sampling? Maybe there are some techniques that I don't know about.

    Also what can I use to sample vinyl into my Daw, what kind of hardware do I get? Just a vinyl player? I really don't know. Thanks.

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    29 Mar 2012 08:37 PM
    Yo, what DAW are you using? To sample from vinyl you just treat it like any audio input, as if it were a microphone or a guitar or keyboard. To hook it up you just need your turntable and maybe your receiver and whatever cords and adapters to get it into your computer. Then once you can hear the record coming through the computer, you just press play and record it in yr DAW like it was a vocal take or whatever.

    It's best to chop evenly, though you don't have to. Maybe stay with 16th notes, on beat -- but if there's a nasty hit that's irregular length, there's no reason you can't snag it.
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    01 Apr 2012 07:50 AM
    I'm using Fl studio. I looked around and i'm guessing something like the "Numark TTUSB Belt-Drive Turntable with USB " is what I need?
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    01 Apr 2012 10:03 AM
    The chops might not sound right coz they're are either poorly chopped (technically) or off beat. If its the first then make sure your cutting it right at the start of a hit or beat, and that it's not clipping. Whenever I sample in FL I just use edison. If your completely clueless then check out NFXs vid on edison (its old, but still good), but you may already know most of the stuff.

    As for sampling from vinyl, it depends on your budget and what equipment you got already. A USB one is great if your on a tight budget and haven't got a soundcard or mixer.
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    01 Apr 2012 12:19 PM
    I'm a bit late on thisbut here goes for some pointers.

    Let's do away with the hardware first:
    The cheapest (and possibly the best sounding route for a beginner) is to get a hold of a old Hi-Fi system. Get a older turntable and a old amp to go with from a flea market or something, those things go for dirt cheap. The up side of this is that older gear (specially if you get a older tube preamp) tend to sound warmer and more pleasent, the new digital gear sometimes is very cold and flat sounding (the cheaper ones, due to soddy cartridges, needles and tonearms etc.).

    The downside is that the gear will propably not be in tip top shape and you will have to hunt for a replacemnt needle or a belt. Do some homework on the subject matter.

    The fastest way is to get one of them USB capable TT's out there, but try to read up on some reviews before you splash out the money. I would recommend maybe spending a few bucks more to get one with decent sound quality fro the get go.

    Don't get me wrong, some of the sabo's crates samples came out of a tiny portable vestax turntable and they don't exactly shred your ears to pieces either

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    As far as getting a groove going on with the chops, you will need to change your approach a little. Try not to do it with the same mindset as you would with loops. YTou will have to re-think that. Look at the chops more like one hit drum samples. Take a piano note and instead of trying build a pattern with it, play it up and down the scale. Take guitar lick and and for example run it thru a wah wah pedal, or a distortion unit and add some tape delay. Boom there you have a ambient sound...

    If you listen to (actually listen to the individual samples) in for example Dillas productions (also this is very prominent with Pete Rock) he very often uses delay on the short chops to fill in the spaces and to soften the transition. Much like Dilla likes to have two versions of a snare drum with different delay/reverb settings to liven up the track.

    The point being, you propably need to concentrate looking at the individual sample as a instrument of it's own and how to manipulate that one sound to make the most of it. Where with loops you concentrate more on how to spice up / diversify the the track.
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    02 Apr 2012 04:56 PM
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    05 Apr 2012 12:35 PM
    Thanks for the tips. I guess I should start practicing more with the chopping. I think i'm gonna mess with the Numark TTUSB aswell.
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