posted on June 17, 2010 03:40
[I used a post from B.A.S.E. as the inspiration for this article - NFX
When we get beat feedback from others, we might confuse it with criticism. This is because the feedback often tells us what we did wrong and we take it personally. Feedback should not be viewed as a personal attack or someone putting you on blast for something you might not be good at or they don't understand.
The content of the feedback might be negative yet be presented in a constructive manner. On the other hand, some praise in a feedback might be worthless if it doesn't go into a little bit of detail about the positives. If I only tell you your beat is great, you don't know what ingredients I liked the best. You lose the ability to understand some of your strengths.
Great feedback will have two basic elements: Positive and Negative. Giving this kind of feedback will help you build up your Karma points and lead you to think more about your own music in a way that makes you a better beat maker.
Good constructive feedback is:
Destructive feedback is:
Constructive vs Destructive Feedback Examples:
Simple one or two words do not give the reader any thing to build on. Even a comment like "It's Dope" might make them feel good, it does nothing to help them improve or undertand why it's dope.
- BAD: It's dope!
- GOOD: It's dope the way you cut that bassline in with the sample.
- BAD: Not feelin it
- GOOD: Not feelin it. The melody sounds a bit off key and the snares are too loud.
When you leave a comment you should look for something the person can build on.
- BAD: Give it up. You have no talent and can't even play in key.
- GOOD: I think you might do better if you watch NFX's tutorial on scales. It will help your melodies sound better.
- BAD: Thats way too repetitive.
- GOOD: I think you need a breakdown before the hook. Maybe add an intro.
If possible mix up a good points along with the bad in the middle. This helps the person know you recognize the good and not just a hater. They are more likely to take your advice as useful (+Karma)
- BAD: It was dope except for the claps.
- GOOD: I like the overall sound you had especially the bassline but the claps seemed a little weak for this track. Nice intro as well.
- BAD: I don't think you understand timing.
- GOOD: The drum sounds are pretty good, but your kick is on an offbeat or something. Try quantizing it. Good choice of sample.
Make sure you are specific about any negative comments and tell them what action might be helpful or why you think the way you do.
- BAD: panning snares is wack
- GOOD: interesting use of panning snares. Generally I like snares in the middle and it threw me off.
- BAD: man that clap is harsh
- GOOD: man that clap is harsh. Try dipping the EQ on the high end to smooth it out a bit.
How to listen and rate a song:
Start the song and just listen to it for about a minute. At this point you should start forming opinions about:
1) The overall quality of the mix. Are some instruments too loud or not loud enough? Is an effect like reverb overused?
2) The quality of sounds. Do the drum sounds good? Do the instruments sound real or cheesy? Are the samples chopped well?
3) The composition. Does the song evolve and stay interesting? Does it have recognizable parts like verse and hook sections?
4) Your personal feeling. Does this song sound like something you would want to hear again?
As you consider all of these parts and the song is playing, make notes in the comment section. Be sure to inculde those things that you were impressed by and why as well as what didn't impress you and why. Offer suggestions for the person to improve in these areas. Above all be honest.
How to accept a feedback on your tracks:
These are very important points to maximize your growth as a musician and beat maker not your ego.
1) Never take insulting comments as an attack. Even if the comment seems negative at least consider what the person meant beyond the insult. If it's just hateful, mark it as "Worthless" and move on. Never seek out a hater just to get them back. Your energy and time are worth more than that petty ish.
2) Some positive comments may not always be useful. If you were scored high, but just get a "Good work" comment it does nothing for your growth musically. Let your ego take a back seat and consider marking it "Worthless"
3) Some negative comments are extremely helpful. When someone comments on how bad your kicks sound, take it as an opportunity to recognize and learn how to get better sounds from your kicks.
4) Not every rating you get needs to be marked as "Useful" or "Worthless". Generally mark the ones that help you most as "Useful" and the ones that don't help at all as "Worthless"
5) Try to give honest feedback to those that feed you and leave their Feed Me Back link.
Good luck to you all on your feedback experiences. If we all work together and do things the right way, we all come up and grow. Don't let a few bad apples poison the bunch.