Grammy Award Winning, Multi-Platinum Engineer Evaluated My Beats
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    01 Feb 2011 06:55 PM

    So I was lucky enough to get a multi-platinum and grammy-award-winning mixing engineer to evaluate three of my mixes (and one of The Saint's). 

     I don't want to say who he is to save him from getting spammed via e-mail or Facebook or Twitter or whatever, but he mixed THE biggest song of the last few years, and has credentials ranging from Michael Jackson and Madonna to Nas, David Guetta, and Nicki Minaj. 

    I found it extremely helpful to hear from someone with that experience what my mixes lacked (and what parts were strong)...and maybe it will be helpful for you guys to see what the evaluation and thought-process is of a master looking at an amateur's work is.

    First beat:

    http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10187863&q=hi&newref=1

    The Feedback (for the most part):

    In what I'd call the verse- you may want to add a kick with a very long tail/sustain, or maybe even an 808.  If you add an 808, make sure it's in the key of the song.  It's frustrating to me when I hear 808's in songs that are sharp, flat, or the wrong note altogether.  I think the bass could be presented much more aggressively. It sounds a little 'stock' right now.  Maybe mult it and place some kind of overdriven distortion on it, and add that in under the bass so you can hear it when solo'd with the bass, but more sensed than hear when playing with the entire track.

    Second beat:

    http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10103335&q=hi&newref=1

    The Feedback (for the most part):

    Piano sounds 'too wide'.  Actually, not too wide, just not mono compatible.  There's a lot of thing going on throughout the track that's taking away from the punch and impact of it.  Listen to it, hit the mono button, you'll see what I mean.  I like the VO guy.

    Third beat:

    http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10127341&q=hi&newref=1

    The Feedback (for the most part):

    this is my fav of the 4.  Reminds me of Owl City, but more clubbish.  The kick could use a little more punch, and less in the 320hertz range.  You may re-look the top end on the kick (7k-10k?) range and use a tight q and boost which may offset the mud/clutter I'm hearing on the kick in the low mid range.  I'd like to hear the parts panned out more.  There's a snap/ticky part that needs to come up a lot more, or be muted.  It's one of those parts that's distracting if tucked too much.  I'd pan the hihat more left, and the tick part to the right.  I think it would make your soundstage more exciting.  Check it on headphones, and you should see what I'm talking about.  It's good, but isn't quite living up to it's potential.

     Fourth beat:

    http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10103438&q=hi&newref=1

    The Feedback:

    Similar issues with the mono compatibility as track 2.  The cuts are great.  The overall energy is there.  Clap/snare could use some love in the 700-1k range.  Overall could come up.  It might me the mp3, but I'm hearing some clicks in the track.  Some of these sound like they are on the cuts, but it also sounds like it could be happening on the bass.  It doesn't sound like vinyl noise, if that's something that you were going for.

     

    Anyway, this helped me a lot, maybe it helped you. Your boy is making moves, and always remember, no matter how you mix if you don't make good music it wont matter at all.  Be yourself, not Vybe...and DEATH TO COOKIE-CUTTER BEATS

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    01 Feb 2011 07:02 PM
    WOW AWESOME DUDE!
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    03 Feb 2011 06:36 AM
    Note to self: always check mono compatibility, especially if you use stereo enhancer effects.

    I always forget to do that, and it might kill a mono mix, like this song
    Stereo:

    Sweet guitar ain't it?


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    Mono -> no sweet guitar in it anymore

     

    PS: Big wonder it's not mono on youtube, it used to always kill the guitar.

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    03 Feb 2011 08:12 AM
    Whitfield thats great!
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    03 Feb 2011 05:58 PM
    thats dope man...who the hell is vybe? i prolly dont wanna know or care if i find out who...

    anyways good stuff bro...hats off
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    04 Feb 2011 10:57 AM
    He's a dude on Soundclick, apparently makes an ish load and is usually pretty high up in the charts

    Great story though Whitfield, sounds like you've got some sweet contacts! Keep at it!
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    05 Feb 2011 05:13 AM
    Dammit, its beats like yours that falter my hope for the future of my own beat making. By the way I've talked to the saint before. I heard one of the songs you must have done together. You use the same tag voice.
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    11 Feb 2011 09:10 PM

    that great man where did he hear them ?



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    16 Feb 2011 11:54 AM
    CAN U SEND A FLP OF THE BEATZ 2 UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS?
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    23 Feb 2011 03:59 PM
    ok so when is the last time someone has heard anything in mono. like maybe and alarm clock radio or old school tv. lol but check it anyway because he is the award winner and we are not even close.
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    23 Feb 2011 04:28 PM
    Posted By Backwordz on 23 Feb 2011 04:59 PM
    ok so when is the last time someone has heard anything in mono. like maybe and alarm clock radio or old school tv. lol but check it anyway because he is the award winner and we are not even close.

    Some (maybe most, not sure) clubs (and venues, music festivals, etc) output their audio as a mono signal so that no matter where you stand you are getting the full song... as opposed to mostly just the right channel if you are standing by the right set of speakers and vise versa. 
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    27 Feb 2011 12:27 PM
    Also, mobile phone speakers, youtube and other shitty audio output sources are mono.

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    10 Mar 2011 01:36 AM
    awesome

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    10 Mar 2011 02:39 AM
    I never used to check my mixes in mono but I started recently cos people were always asking why it nver sounded as good on their phone or laptop speakers
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    10 Mar 2011 03:51 PM
    Posted By IV: The Fourth on 23 Feb 2011 05:28 PM
    Posted By Backwordz on 23 Feb 2011 04:59 PM
    ok so when is the last time someone has heard anything in mono. like maybe and alarm clock radio or old school tv. lol but check it anyway because he is the award winner and we are not even close.

    Some (maybe most, not sure) clubs (and venues, music festivals, etc) output their audio as a mono signal so that no matter where you stand you are getting the full song... as opposed to mostly just the right channel if you are standing by the right set of speakers and vise versa. 

    Thats 100% correct answer.

     

    And not some, all (atleast decent) clubs do that

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    08 Aug 2011 11:39 AM
    Great read.
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