How to flavour up Drums
Last Post 23 Jan 2012 01:46 AM by CycloBeats. 7 Replies.
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    23 Dec 2011 03:18 PM

    maybe its because of me but most times I make a Beat and post it in Warbeats, people are not satisfied with my Drum Setup / sequence. Now my question is how are you guys doing your drums. Are there any Tricks ? The only things I know is how to make a snare more punchy by layering with  a Tambourine or make the Kick more punchy like NFX made a tutorial. And what do I have to know about Rhythm ?

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    27 Dec 2011 05:54 AM
    If your programming your beats in the step sequencer then the "swing" slider is invaluable for a live feel. EQ, Compression are very useful. Reverb on snare and hats make a big difference. Panning is necessary and effective. Kicks Center, Snares sometimes center, hats always panned a little right for me, but that is to taste. Ghost notes give a nice vibe to a beat, small notes before or after hits that are lower in velocity. Drum fills and change ups so the pattern is not repetitive are very important.
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    28 Dec 2011 12:51 PM
    thank ya know we got a lot of techniques to flavour up drums but are there any other techniques like layering with tambourine-snare ?
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    28 Dec 2011 03:44 PM
    layering a snare and clap is about all I know as far as layering goes
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    29 Dec 2011 02:00 AM
    A computer has a perfect timing and can hit every sound exactly the same each time you want it to.
    If you want a 'groove', this perfection stands in your way...

    So to 'humanize' your drums you can add these 'imperfections' :-)
    Here are some tips for laying down a drum pattern:

    1. layer different kicks and snares
    2. Use different hats (closed as well as open)
    3. Use swing knob or groovetemplates
    4. Switch up the velocity of your hits
    5. Use inverted snare or hat sounds as an 'accent' (or for transitions)
    6. Add more 'flavours' with other percussion (shaker, bell, crashes,..)

    You can use these tips for working in the step sequencer. Some of them can allso be usefull using a midi controller offcourse.
    If this don't work for you, you can always try sampling drum breaks and mess with them to create your own new patterns and grooves.

    Hope this helps.

    Peace.

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    29 Dec 2011 04:29 AM
    Really depends on what kind of beat is it If you have an r&b beat (pads'n shit), It would be wise not to use too much percussion work. Again this depends on the tempo of the beat I'm not a big fan of slow percussion work... It sounds boring.

    To a hard hip hop beat, maybe some Eastcoast Jay-Z kinda stuff, It may give a nice feel to it, if you delay the hats a bit (Like move them to the right in the piano roll) So that it get's a feel of being unquantized and thereby more oldschool...

    In beats there are more ambient or ballad kinda, I personally like having some banging drums... It depends a lot on your sound choice. Make sure the kick isn't too dry and make sure that the kick and the snare have an affair with eachother... more precisely they fit eachother. Then the percussion work comes. Again it really depends on how you want it to sound... I've always like more ethnic percussion. Like a bongo, tambourine etc.

    Brief : In the end, it depends on your sound/sample choice, your panning and voluming (Like GP mentioned), and what you wanna do with it. And it's not always that the thing which makes the beat bang, is the kick and the snare... It's often the percussion, and cymbals, which gives that extra thing.

    How would "That's my bitch" - Jay-Z, Kanye (Watch The Throne) sound without percussion work?

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    17 Jan 2012 04:57 AM

    One thing that's always made drums sound better is making them sound live. Try this; lay your pattern out for starters however you want. Then, jump into your piano roll and place the hats a little out of time (As in to the right...).. Then, layer your claps/snares with other claps and snares - then do the same thing, put 1 of the 2 claps/snares out of time very slightly, both left and right sides of the sound. This will create a thicker sound, and a more live feel to the drums. Don't do it with the kick because that will just sound messy and ruin the bass dynamics.

    Let me know how it goes.

    Joey Xoto
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    www.JoeyXoto.com
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    23 Jan 2012 01:46 AM
    Also try sending all your drums to a channel where u compress them together.
    U can also add some distortion and reverb, that way all your drums will sound like they are in a same space or that they are from the same drum kit.
    Be careful not to overdo it tho, adjust the wet / dry untill u can barely hear it and then remove another 2-3% or something like that, u are not aiming for so much as an audible efect but more for a glue to your drums.

    Same applys to compression if u alrdy compressed each individual sound but if u didn't then u can compress them a fair ammount, I don't do it that way but I know lot of ppl do.

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